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This is just a loud out thinking. Mobiles will eventually die. My Mobile is getting a bit old (2 years old now)
Considering to buy a new one.
I have a lot of 2FA on exchanges.

How to move those 2FA into my new Mobile.

Maybe I am just the only one done some thinking and is a bit lost. But I think it is matter that will concern a lot of us.
Or I am just plain stupid not knowing how to do it :classic_biggrin:

PS.
I do not know how to use the Internet (Google) and search for it..
DS.

Zen

 

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2 hours ago, Zenkert said:

I have a lot of 2FA on exchanges.

Hey @Zenkert sorry to be that guy, but there are a lot of potential security flaws with using mobile 2FA that was only just recently brought to my attention. Thought I would share.
- SMS Two Factor Authentication https://www.google.com/search?q=dangers of mobile 2FA
- SIM Swapping https://www.google.com/search?q=SIM swapping

But to answer your question you can move Google Authenticator to a new mobile phone by heading to Google's two step verification page:
https://accounts.google.com/b/0/SmsAuthSettings.

Step by step instructions here: (its a crummy page though, even my adblocker doesn't do a good job)
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-move-google-authenticator-to-a-new-device/

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4 minutes ago, Daz said:

Hey @Zenkert sorry to be that guy, but there are a lot of potential security flaws with using mobile 2FA that was only just recently brought to my attention. Thought I would share.

I do not mind @Daz I was looking for answers and thought, I think we all need this cause it will happen. I have already more or less researched what you posted.
I was looking for, if there is, a bit more in depth information on this subject which I think is very important.

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:good:

1 minute ago, Zenkert said:

I was looking for, if there is, a bit more in depth information on this subject which I think is very important.

 

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Hey @Zenkert just looking into it now, but there seems to be a good alternative to Google 2FA - https://www.google.com/search?q=hydro 2fa

https://www.hydrogenplatform.com/hydro-app
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahydrogenplatform.com+2fa

Thanks for setting up this post, its prompted me to look for alternatives, and there appears to be some more secure alternatives than Google's 2FA!

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"Hydro uses cutting-edge cryptography and the blockchain to secure your accounts, transactions, and payments. Instantly verify yourself anytime, anywhere in the world, and eliminate identity theft and hacking."

 

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.....looks like you can't use Hydro on most exchanges yet. Its coming.

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I started this Post because I wanted to put some light on what might go wrong. Mostly it is us the User him/herself that do something wrong.
Like not adding TAG to a deposit or a withtrawal. Most errors are done by users. So I dramatized this a bit.
I want us all to be as safe as possible, and share and discuss any issue that is of importance.

So 2FA is important and how to handle it. Just imagine if your Mobile just stops working . . . right now.
I care a lot for the safety of us all and how to take precautions and be as safe as possible @Daz

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Geez, I didn't know google had actually dropped support for 2FA :shock:

Google wants you to stop using its SMS two-factor sign-in
SMS isn't secure, so Google will start pushing its users across to its prompt-based 2-Step Verification.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-wants-you-to-stop-using-its-sms-two-factor-sign-in/

and yet..

Top Crypto Exchanges Still Using Authenticator 2FA Despite Google Dropping Support
Google has had none of its 85,000+ employees successfully phished since early 2017 when it was reported they dropped the use of its own Authenticator app and switched to a U2F model.
https://bitcoinist.com/top-crypto-exchanges-still-using-authenticator-2fa-despite-google-dropping-support/

Wow.

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Just now, Zenkert said:

I started this Post because I wanted to put some light on what might go wrong. Mostly it is us the User him/herself that do something wrong.
Like not adding TAG to a deposit or a withtrawal. Most errors are done by users. So I dramatized this a bit.
I want us all to be as safe as possible, and share and discuss any issue that is of importance.

So 2FA is important and how to handle it. Just imagine if your Mobile just stops working . . . right now.
I care a lot for the safety of us all and how to take precautions and be as safe as possible @Daz

You need to have that code which usually shows up along with the QR. And store that somewhere. Without it, it's impossible to move at Google 2FA to a new phone. You have to contact the site and get them to help. Some of them have an option for lost 2FA. It's not uncommon for that to happen.

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1 minute ago, Zenkert said:

I started this Post because I wanted to put some light on what might go wrong. Mostly it is us the User him/herself that do something wrong.
Like not adding TAG to a deposit or a withtrawal. Most errors are done by users. So I dramatized this a bit.
I want us all to be as safe as possible, and share and discuss any issue that is of importance.

So 2FA is important and how to handle it. Just imagine if your Mobile just stops working . . . right now.
I care a lot for the safety of us all and how to take precautions and be as safe as possible @Daz

I'm really glad you started this post @Zenkert this is much needed. It prompted me to research a little on the subject, and I'm quite surprised at what I'm finding. Thanks mate :classic_smile:

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2 minutes ago, Daz said:

Google wants you to stop using its SMS two-factor sign-in

SMS is one thing. I do not use that since I do not trade on my Mobile.

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56 minutes ago, Daz said:

.....looks like you can't use Hydro on most exchanges yet. Its coming.

So why run away with the OP and mention Hydro  @Daz ?
Stay grounded is my advice, you are just confusing people who have a real interest in this issue.

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2 hours ago, Zenkert said:

So why run away with the OP and mention Hydro  @Daz ?
Stay grounded is my advice, you are just confusing people who have a real interest in this issue.

My apologies, I didn't think anything of it. I'm genuinely interested. I guess I went off on a bit of a tangent when doing some research. Thanks for the nudge back :classic_smile:

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10 minutes ago, Daz said:

My apologies, I didn't think anything of it. I'm genuinely interested. I guess I went off on a bit of a tangent when doing some research. Thanks for the nudge back :classic_smile:

No worries Mate. I am shure that your walk in the Park added som spark to the subject. I for one had never heard of Hydro before, even if it was a bit off topic.

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@Zenkert can I ask you what App you use for 2FA? What App do most people here use for 2FA?

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Two questions in one, and underneath is a third question.
1. What other people use, how can I know that?
2. I have Google Authenticator on my Mobile. I use it when I log in on my Computer to Exchanges.
3. The answer to the third question is what is the alternative?

So the way I use 2FA with Google Authenticator is not at all sms related. Or text as US residents might call it.

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1 minute ago, Zenkert said:

1. What other people use, how can I know that?

Sorry, should of been a little more clearer with that question. It was aimed at the community. I use Google Authenticator also. I was just looking at the Authy alternative.

https://authy.com/blog/authy-vs-google-authenticator/

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  • "With Authy’s multiple-device functionality, your 2FA tokens automatically sync to any new device you authorize. And, if a device is lost, stolen, or retired, you can deauthorize it from any authorized device just as quickly."

 

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7 minutes ago, Daz said:

Sorry, should of been a little more clearer with that question. It was aimed at the community. I use Google Authenticator also. I was just looking at the Authy alternative.

https://authy.com/blog/authy-vs-google-authenticator/

Yeah, but show me an exchange that use that 2FA . . . you are way out of line here. Please stop posting, cause it does not do the subject any good.
Or prove me WRONG! You might be right.

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Not trying to be an ass @Zenkert but all exchanges will use Authy. I just confirmed it to a degree by downloading the App and using it to log into Bittrex (US) and Coinspot (Australia). You can use Authy anywhere where you are instructed to download and enable Google Authenticator and it solves your issue of moving 2FA on to new devices with its Multi-device sync.

https://authy.com/blog/how-to-enable-authy-for-binance-withdrawals/

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Late Night here @Daz I want to Thank You before hitting the Hay. Your latest contributions in this Post of mine is very valuable.
Please excuse for being a bit pecky in the beginning, I did not mean to do any harm. And you proved that being pecky brings out the best in you :classic_biggrin: :d_sunny:

Mille Grazie!

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