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3 minutes ago, Zenkert said:

AFAIK the problem is he @PikaXRP has nothing saved. Anyway a lot of good reads in this thread :JC_doubleup:

I suspect so too. But always good to know that the secret can be deterministically generated in the CSC case. This means that the fork has made some changes in this regard.

From toastwallet:

First, the PIN is not used to encrypt your secrets, it is just a privacy guard on the front of the app to stop your friends (whom presumably borrow your phone occasionally) from checking out how much XRP you have. Second, each time a passphrase is set on a Toast Wallet instance it is randomly salted, so even two identical passphrases on two different devices will produce two different keys. Finally Toast Wallet does not deterministically generate XRP secrets, so no this could never happen.

https://toastwallet.com/faq Number 15

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Just now, Rey said:

OK, yes, you gotta have either the private key or the BIP39 mnemonic phrases (those words). It isn't very wise to store either of them in plain text though ...

Also, I think @Marco is right that a software wallet, whether installed on a PC or as an app on a mobile device, shouldn't store a private key in plain text.

It doesn't. You and @Marco are completely correct in that regard AFAIK.

And I remember your AES route to store the phrase 😄

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2 minutes ago, Fidgetspinner said:

This thread has some important information. It may need to be moved to Technical?

I agree.

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2 minutes ago, Fidgetspinner said:

Well, we are a jolly bunch aren't we? Trying to solve a problem, after the OP may have left the building. On a Sunday! 😄

Yes we are :JC_doubleup: A crazy gang of individuals that never stop Caring to protect our investments and try to help those in need, with the great support of the CSC Foundation backing us.
We are the CSCeers :heart:

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I'm new here, lol. Just found out that Daniel and the 'wallet team' had added a 'paper wallet' generator inside the wallet so quote "..you dont have to run any 3rd party code."

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18 minutes ago, Daz said:

I'm new here, lol. Just found out that Daniel and the 'wallet team' had added a 'paper wallet' generator inside the wallet so quote "..you dont have to run any 3rd party code."

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Seen that too @Daz but i cannot remember if it was there before the latest Release of the Wallet.
A good feature, though. But "noBrainers" will still do "noBrainers"  :dash1:

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I haven't left the building, Just stepped out.  I do have the wallet passphrase, are you saying I can recover?  ELI5?

Thank you!

 

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On 11/16/2018 at 8:58 PM, Marco said:

This would be valid only if wallet keeps the keys without encryption in system folder which would be highly unlikely, otherwise it's a security issue.  

 

@Daniel Keller

Is still valid. There is a decryptor. How do you think I have been rescuing wallets from Mac??? So as long as data files are in tact it is a "possibility" same as recovering photos. This is also indicative of why we se ure erase our devices before we sell them. A 7 pass wipe is best.

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53 minutes ago, Daz said:

@PikaXRP please let us know how you go. Goodluck mate!

Yes @PikaXRP, we'd all be interested in knowing how it went for you.

All the best!

ps : And if it does, all of us on this thread will DM you our CSC addresses, and we will look forward to a tip :biggrin:

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11 hours ago, Fidgetspinner said:

ps : And if it does, all of us on this thread will DM you our CSC addresses, and we will look forward to a tip :biggrin:

BTW, thanks for mentioning! That's another one to add to the list of candidates to port to CSC -> Wietse Wind's beautiful XRP Tipbot

/thread hijacking

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Ah, it looks like it's gone...  Thank everyone for the assistance.  (No tips will be forthcoming... 🙂  )

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30 minutes ago, PikaXRP said:

Ah, it looks like it's gone...  Thank everyone for the assistance.  (No tips will be forthcoming... 🙂  )

Shit happens... but as far a I remember it, you said you will be fine anyway.  Not a life changing loss. Just a lesson learned. Right?

 

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On 11/18/2018 at 10:20 AM, Zenkert said:

Seen that too @Daz but i cannot remember if it was there before the latest Release of the Wallet.
A good feature, though. But "noBrainers" will still do "noBrainers"  :dash1:

 

On 11/18/2018 at 10:02 AM, Daz said:

I'm new here, lol. Just found out that Daniel and the 'wallet team' had added a 'paper wallet' generator inside the wallet so quote "..you dont have to run any 3rd party code."

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thats been there for quite some time.

 

30 minutes ago, PikaXRP said:

Ah, it looks like it's gone...  Thank everyone for the assistance.  (No tips will be forthcoming... 🙂  )

you didn't write anything down though? 

maybe its a lesson for all of us too. good luck!

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11 minutes ago, MegaNerd said:

you didn't write anything down though? 

maybe its a lesson for all of us too. good luck!

Yes it is... 

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1 hour ago, PikaXRP said:

Ah, it looks like it's gone...  Thank everyone for the assistance.  (No tips will be forthcoming... 🙂  )

Sorry to hear that. 😞

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On 11/18/2018 at 3:11 PM, Daz said:

@Fidgetspinner it worked. I downloaded the 32bit Desktop Wallet and installed it fresh. I copied the Password Recovery Passphrase and opened the wallet after initializing. I then went to my android CasinoCoin Wallet and clicked 'Add Account'. I then went to https://termhn.github.io/ripplewarpwallet/ and generated my secret key by entering the 8 PassPhrase words I collected when setting up my wallet. I added the 'new secret key' to my Android 'Add Account' and presto, it successfully added the new address.

I have a doubt. Did it add the same address?? Would it be possible for you to double check. I'm getting different results.

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5 minutes ago, Fidgetspinner said:

have a doubt. Did it add the same address?? Would it be possible for you to double check. I'm getting different results.

Will do when I get home from work.

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14 hours ago, Fidgetspinner said:

I have a doubt. Did it add the same address?? Would it be possible for you to double check. I'm getting different results.

I don't know what to say @Fidgetspinner I have tried many times to recreate what I was able to do easily first time on Sunday but I cannot.

Do you think @FlyingFox might be able to assist?

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I simply use Ian Coleman’s BIP39 tools to enter my 24 words and choose the digital asset I want access too. I then use the Private Key it reveals (not the same as the secret key) to sign my offline transactions as I require in tools such as RippleRM wallet. 

All offline on a safe computer, of course!

Given CSC ledger is built on the same principles and codebase as XRP ledger, you can do the same for CSC too, albeit there is no Nano S support for CSC right now. I’m working on such a tool that allows the above but for CSC and XRP together.

My fault, I should of done several tests before saying anything. No quality assurance. Apologies for the false hope. But, on a positive note - if these tools exist for other digital assets then isn't a matter of time before someone builds a suitable tool for recovering your CSC 'secret key' via your 8 word PassPhrase?

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36 minutes ago, Daz said:

I don't know what to say @Fidgetspinner I have tried many times to recreate what I was able to do easily first time on Sunday but I cannot.

Do you think @FlyingFox might be able to assist?

My fault, I should of done several tests before saying anything. No quality assurance. Apologies for the false hope. But, on a positive note - if these tools exist for other digital assets then isn't a matter of time before someone builds a suitable tool for recovering your CSC 'secret key' via your 8 word PassPhrase?

No issues at all. And thanks for getting back. I was just worried I was getting more insane than I normally am :D .
Yes, you are right, but it will require some modifications to the wallet, since the salt seems to be randomly generated right now, and that could be the cause. 

One way to check, if you have the time, is to copy the appropriate salt from the backup and try with that salt included in the correct field

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3 minutes ago, Fidgetspinner said:

No issues at all. And thanks for getting back. I was just worried I was getting more insane than I normally am :D.
Yes, you are right, but it will require some modifications to the wallet, since the salt seems to be randomly generated right now, and that could be the cause. 

One way to check, if you have the time, is to copy the appropriate salt from the backup and try with that salt included in the correct field

The method for the Ledger is different, since it uses a BIP 39/BIP44 (not sure) Mnemonic, IMHO. I am referring to the current SW wallet that we all use.

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