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My android phone was wiped with the CasinoCoin Wallet on it.  I' never did a backup of the key...  I'm screwed, Yeah?

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1 hour ago, PikaXRP said:

My android phone was wiped with the CasinoCoin Wallet on it.  I' never did a backup of the key...  I'm screwed, Yeah?

My understanding is. If you don't have the key, you don't have access to the wallet. 

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1 hour ago, PikaXRP said:

My android phone was wiped with the CasinoCoin Wallet on it.  I' never did a backup of the key...  I'm screwed, Yeah?

Most likely it's gone, you can't recover key because it's stored in root of your phone that wont be recoverable by any software unfortunately in your case. 

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17 minutes ago, Marco said:

Most likely it's gone, you can't recover key because it's stored in root of your phone that wont be recoverable by any software unfortunately in your case. 

Mmm . . . Once again someone done something "stupid" despite all information available. Should we create a new Topic in the Chat? KEEP your CSC SAFE and any other DA.
It would be fairly easy, but then again, people don´t read it. They just come for help when in need.

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3 minutes ago, Zenkert said:

Mmm . . . Once again someone done something "stupid" despite all information available. Should we create a new Topic in the Chat? KEEP your CSC SAFE and any other DA.
It would be fairly easy, but then again, people don´t read it. They just come for help when in need.

All so true!  Even the best of us, and even the worst, have misfortune visit us, even to the most careful, and certainly to the unprepared.

It was my misplaced hope, that this brain trust might have a way, but alas, it seems my supposition was proven correct.  I won't sweat it, as I wasn't betting the milk money, it was more like a lottery ticket.

Regardless, Thank You Zenkert for your wise words. 

Children, remember me as a cautionary tale, and do as the Wise Elder Zenkert instructs.

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1 minute ago, PikaXRP said:

I won't sweat it, as I wasn't betting the milk money, it was more like a lottery ticket.

Pheeww! That took a lot of stress of my mind @PikaXRP :heart:

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43 minutes ago, PikaXRP said:

All so true!  Even the best of us, and even the worst, have misfortune visit us, even to the most careful, and certainly to the unprepared.

It was my misplaced hope, that this brain trust might have a way, but alas, it seems my supposition was proven correct.  I won't sweat it, as I wasn't betting the milk money, it was more like a lottery ticket.

Regardless, Thank You Zenkert for your wise words. 

Children, remember me as a cautionary tale, and do as the Wise Elder Zenkert instructs.

Sorry to hear that Bro!!...

I hope you get them back some way.  

Wish you the best luck there!!... :drinks:

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7 minutes ago, LeGonze said:

Sorry to hear that Bro!!...

I hope you get them back some way.  

Wish you the best luck there!!... :drinks:

I'll repurchase.  A cheap lesson, all things considered.

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5 minutes ago, PikaXRP said:

I'll repurchase.  A cheap lesson, all things considered.

OOL.

Great! That;s the Spirit!!... :banana::bb:

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Maybe not gone. It depends on how much more you use your phone. The more you use it, the higher the chance it is gone. Data from your phone can be recovered for the life of the phone as long as the memory block is not over writen. Look into linux testdisk or photorec for help and stop using the phone immediately.

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Look on the positive side, right now it's cheap enough to buy what you lost. You might end up paying double but over time even paying 10X would be a bargain.

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2 hours ago, BumFuzzle said:

Maybe not gone. It depends on how much more you use your phone. The more you use it, the higher the chance it is gone. Data from your phone can be recovered for the life of the phone as long as the memory block is not over writen. Look into linux testdisk or photorec for help and stop using the phone immediately.

This would be valid only if wallet keeps the keys without encryption in system folder which would be highly unlikely, otherwise it's a security issue.  

 

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19 minutes ago, Marco said:

This would be valid only if wallet keeps the keys without encryption in system folder which would be highly unlikely, otherwise it's a security issue.  

 

@Daniel Keller

Pour @Daniel Keller he has to answer and solve all issues. I really feel for you brother Daniel. Better watch out so you do not burn your Candle in Both Ends :heart:

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Is there a tool for converting BIP39 mnemonic phrases for CSC to addresses and private keys?

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1 hour ago, Daz said:

Is there a tool for converting BIP39 mnemonic phrases for CSC to addresses and private keys?

Don't know if I understand what you are asking, but the CSC wallet is forked from toastwallet. Which uses scrypt. So am not sure how a BIP39 converter would help. 

https://toastwallet.com/cryptodiagram.html

AFAIK, only the HW wallets such as Nano use BIP39 / BIP44 etc. @Rey I think you had some insight into this?

@Daniel Keller ? As usual 😄

 

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6 minutes ago, Daz said:

Hey Fidgetspinner, I didn't know that. Thanks for bringing me up to speed. So, would it be possible to create a casinocoin deterministic secret key generator using scrypt? For example:

https://termhn.github.io/ripplewarpwallet/

(from here)

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I'll go through it, but may be worth the wait to see if someone gets back on my assumptions first.

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@Fidgetspinner it worked. I downloaded the 32bit Desktop Wallet and installed it fresh. I copied the Password Recovery Passphrase and opened the wallet after initializing. I then went to my android CasinoCoin Wallet and clicked 'Add Account'. I then went to https://termhn.github.io/ripplewarpwallet/ and generated my secret key by entering the 8 PassPhrase words I collected when setting up my wallet. I added the 'new secret key' to my Android 'Add Account' and presto, it successfully added the new address.

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3 minutes ago, Daz said:

@Fidgetspinner it worked. I downloaded the 32bit Desktop Wallet and installed it fresh. I copied the Password Recovery Passphrase and opened the wallet after initializing. I then went to my android CasinoCoin Wallet and clicked 'Add Account'. I then went to https://termhn.github.io/ripplewarpwallet/ and generated my secret key by entering the 8 PassPhrase words I collected when setting up my wallet. I added the 'new secret key' to my Android 'Add Account' and presto, it successfully added the new address.

Awesome!!

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2 hours ago, Daz said:

Is there a tool for converting BIP39 mnemonic phrases for CSC to addresses and private keys?

 

53 minutes ago, Fidgetspinner said:

Don't know if I understand what you are asking, but the CSC wallet is forked from toastwallet. Which uses scrypt. So am not sure how a BIP39 converter would help. 

https://toastwallet.com/cryptodiagram.html

AFAIK, only the HW wallets such as Nano use BIP39 / BIP44 etc. @Rey I think you had some insight into this?

@Daniel Keller ? As usual 😄

 

There are online tools for conversion.

https://iancoleman.io/bip39/

 

AFAIK several software wallets also support BIP39.

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14 minutes ago, Fidgetspinner said:

Thanks @Rey. @Daz was able to regenerate the key successfully. The issue now on hand is whether @PikaXRP has the words saved somewhere. 

AFAIK the problem is he @PikaXRP has nothing saved. Anyway a lot of good reads in this thread :JC_doubleup:

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10 minutes ago, Fidgetspinner said:

Thanks @Rey. @Daz was able to regenerate the key successfully. The issue now on hand is whether @PikaXRP has the words saved somewhere. 

OK, yes, you gotta have either the private key or the BIP39 mnemonic phrases (those words). It isn't very wise to store either of them in plain text though ...

Also, I think @Marco is right that a software wallet, whether installed on a PC or as an app on a mobile device, shouldn't store a private key in plain text.

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