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4 minutes ago, Zenkert said:

Cyborg . . . @CindyLou
I know where I stand. I have my stash. No worries. It was, was it was. But for newcomers, it must have been a bit disappointing.
We need some marketing dress-up. They all looked like Bumps. Shaking their feet in front of the Camera. Dressed like . . . me . . . LOL.
And that is not a Pretty sight, even if I know that I am truly wonderful on the Inside 😋
At least they could have had the same T-shirt . . . if you get my drift.
 

I agree Z,

I have run many meetings in my days in business... It's better to have no meeting at all than one that has no purpose... I watched the entire thing and am still struggling to remember what I learned that was new. :classic_ohmy:

Still on board with CSC in a big way (whale)... But Dayum... sell the sizzle baby, dress the part, set the setting, answer ALL the questions. Crap, I submitted 3 great questions that weren't even sniffed!  

Show me a frickin' palm tree for crying out loud! 

Cyn 

PS: our Zerples are getting some recent traction...  :kiss2:

 

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I didn't see the stream and by all accounts, i'm glad I didn't. I know someone sent some CSC shoes to that guy, maybe we need to send a dozen CSC polo shirts for goodness sake.

I'm in for .50 then I don't care what they wear! 😉

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9 minutes ago, CindyLou said:

Show me a frickin' palm tree for crying out loud! 

YEAH! Or a BOAT for crying out load. They have wonderfully beatiful boats in Malta @CindyLou

 

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I really enjoyed the Fireside chat. Announcements are over-rated!! Thanks for all the info that everybody knew! 

    Lookin' forward towards the future,

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11 minutes ago, CindyLou said:

I just like it... :heart: Zen KERT! :spinlol: 

I get it. You are a entrepenur . . . CLU 😋

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So nothing at all huh??  :classic_wacko:

Well, I never get excited about these thing ever... So...

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2 minutes ago, Jack-of-Spade said:

I really enjoyed the Fireside chat. Announcements are over-rated!! Thanks for all the info that everybody knew! 

    Lookin' forward towards the future,

 🎲💸

We have @BiffTannen in the Zerpening Club and here too. Talk to him, he knows a great deal about the future. And also the Past.

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34 minutes ago, Zenkert said:

They all looked like Bumps. Shaking their feet in front of the Camera. Dressed like . . . me . . . LOL.

Sooo, your saying there is a chance??? 

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It's an investment.

Not entertainment.

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2 minutes ago, BlackJack said:

It's an investment.

Not entertainment.

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Okay Team, my 2 cents...

I've been around a lot of entrepreneur tech and visionary people, they march to a different drummer, to say the least. Most of them are unconcerned with outward appearances, they live in an interior world of grey matter, that's cool. They sometimes appear awkward, aloof even, they are not always seasoned speakers or entertainers. Think Steve Jobs; although Steve became pretty good at giving presentations after a while.

I was not expecting the Team to be dressed in matching polo shirts or looking like wall street power hitters. I am comfortable with them just being who they are and getting things done. If they, by design or on accident, are keeping things low key for now, that's cool, I trust them implicitly.

While I guess some of us wanted a real rah rah show full of excitement and eye candy, we all know by now that this team is intentionally subdued and focused on results and not hype, in some ways, that should give us even more assurance that this is a real project of value.

Finally, I do still believe that our time will come when we all get to spike the football and high five until our hands are bruised! In the meantime, we hodl and accumulate and do our part to get the word out while the team steadily moves the ball towards the goal.

No matter what, I love this amazing Team and Foundation, every one of them! :flirt:

 

CYN :heart:

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From the last chat I saw, I didn’t expect anything different with this one. They come across as being very approachable and available to people like us, as shown with some of their presence within the CSC community. And it’s all live, so they’re not able to go through many takes and edits to make it all shiny and pretty. They took time out for the chat and I’m grateful for all they want to share with us.

 
I have a lot of faith in what they do and how they do it. I don’t care if they want to dress in shorts and t-shirts. They are working hard to get what we all want—success! 👍
 
They were also in that little room because they got bumped out of the office they were in, so looks like they scrambled at the last minute to come together to get the chat going at the planned time. 
 

 

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Hi Everyone;

I won't download that Zoom thing; so I'll have to wait for when they get it on YouTube.  So, as someone who didn't see it yet, but read the comments in this thread, I feel I must throw something out there that's been on my mind with this Team.  There is such a thing as going too far even when the intentions are good.  initially, I, as we all have, respected the team for directing their focus on a working, quality product; rather than "hyping" the project; like 95% of all the scam coins that are out there.  However, AWARENESS IS IMPORTANT.  This project/use case can be the Jesus Christ of the on-line gaming/gambling world, but it won't go anywhere if enough awareness isn't created.  I don't want hype, but I do expect a sound strategy to create awareness or to put it more correctly, a sound marketing and promotion strategy.  Investments in this project brings money to it, which will allow them to move the project forward at the speed of business.  Doing nothing will run the risk another team/project winning when all is said and done.  

I've owned my own business for over twenty years.  In fact, I'm a business consultant.  My business/job is to help multi-million dollar business improve their operations and their bottom line.  I can tell you first hand that the best doesn't always win.  I can give countless examples, but one would be the VHS vs Beta Max War.  If you're old enough you remember this.  Beta Max was miles better than the VHS.  Better tech, better quality, better product, etc.  So why did VHS win that war? The reason is that they not only had a quality product that worked (although not as good as Beta Max), but they also had a sound marketing strategy.  The best doesn't always win!!!  And, CasinoCoin won't "win" if they don't have some sort of marketing plan.  I'm sure with their connections they're promoting the heck out of this with the operators and payment processors, but we can't forget about the players.  They need to look forward to this as well.  Unless I'm missing something, the CSC Team is certainly big enough  to divert some efforts to marketing/creating awareness.  Their experienced enough, connected enough and have a solid board of advisors to get this done.

Regarding the professionalism;  again, I didn't see it yet, but if their dress and presentation was as unprofessional as some here have noted, it's unacceptable.  And, we should not make excuses for them or try to rationalize why this was OK.  It's not.  Period!  I would never take anyone seriously and in fact, would waste any of my time on anyone that didn't present themselves to me in a serious/professional way.  One person mentioned that maybe they did this on purpose to squelch the hype in this community.  I'm sorry to disagree.  No one with ANY business sense would do that and this was not done on purpose.  And, if it was....Wrong move.  Listen, I think it's great that we got this community going and I love it, but we're really not that big of a community and we certainly don't need to be squelched.  Hell, as it stands it sounds like we're the only marketing they've got.

I mentioned at the start of this that this has been on my mind for a while.  What I meant by that was I was at my limits with this "no hype" BS when they went on about it during the last chat they did in August.  We get it. You're "no hype".  No need to remind us at every turn.  And speaking of that last chat from August, it brings me to my second thing.  During that chat, John discussed that there were operators using CSC and that they all thought it was a great idea and he's received very positive feed back.  If you listen to that whole portion where this comes up, John stated that the overall sentiment of operators that were involved was that, "they thought it was a great idea, but the tech isn't nearly there".  The second part of that, "...but the tech isn't nearly there...." is what I want to point out.  Don't get me wrong, I have no problem if the tech isn't nearly there, I just want to point out to everyone that we probably have a long while before anything materializes with this.  However, I'm also struggling with it a little, because in the thread that was discussing the sandbox testing Daniel mentioned they were "ready to go" and "couldn't wait".  I understand that just because they're ready for the testing it doesn't mean that the tech doesn't still need some work, but I would think that if they're ready for the testing the tech would be closer than what the operators intimated to John.  I'm far from a tech guy; so I may be way off base with my understanding of it all; please don't kill me.

I hope none of this came across in any wrong kind of way.  Remember folks, I'm XRP & CSC through and through.  Also, I don't want any of you or the CSC Team to take anything I've written here as a slight on there intentions, passion or competence.  We said when we started this community that we weren't going to get out of hand with OUR hype and we also said that while we weren't going to allow any negativity by way of trolls, we weren't going to put our heads in the sand either.  I will be the first to show my appreciation to the CSC Team for a job well done, but I also have no problem calling anyone out if I have a problem with something.  If I'm wrong or I need to be educated they can do so and I'll be glad to stand corrected.  But this overkill on the no hype has to stop.  The bottom line is that it seems, at least to this community (and we do count), that CSC is lacking in the marketing and promotions department.  Please put one in place...Or, at least start creating some awareness.

Sorry for the rant and thanks in advance for tolerating it.

GO CSC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

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Thanks @Alcar !

Your frustration comes across loud and clear and is shared by many of us here... 

My main concern is that CSC/Casinocoin is a business not just a coin/project. There will need to be an ongoing management team in place FOREVER. A real CEO, CFO, managers, employees, etcetera, FOREVER, similar to Ripple.

Things like moving money, upgrading technology, partner relations, tech-support will all be needed on an ongoing basis FOREVER.  This company will need revenue streams, budgets and discipline, not just a DA and a BRM. I am not convinced that a loose "foundation" is the proper business structure to design and implement a business plan of this nature, let alone run a business of this magnitude in perpetuity. Getting some answers and clarity regarding these types of issues would not be considered "hype" and is expected in business, especially the BIG business entities that CSC is courting.

I am still a big fan of CSC/Casinocoin potential, but I see many challenges ahead; thus the low price at this early stage and the tremendous potential for growth.

 

Respectfully,

Cindy Lou

 

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11 minutes ago, Alcar said:

Hi Everyone;

I won't download that Zoom thing; so I'll have to wait for when they get it on YouTube.  So, as someone who didn't see it yet, but read the comments in this thread, I feel I must throw something out there that's been on my mind with this Team.  There is such a thing as going too far even when the intentions are good.  initially, I, as we all have, respected the team for directing their focus on a working, quality product; rather than "hyping" the project; like 95% of all the scam coins that are out there.  However, AWARENESS IS IMPORTANT.  This project/use case can be the Jesus Christ of the on-line gaming/gambling world, but it won't go anywhere if enough awareness isn't created.  I don't want hype, but I do expect a sound strategy to create awareness or to put it more correctly, a sound marketing and promotion strategy.  Investments in this project brings money to it, which will allow them to move the project forward at the speed of business.  Doing nothing will run the risk another team/project winning when all is said and done.  

I've owned my own business for over twenty years.  In fact, I'm a business consultant.  My business/job is to help multi-million dollar business improve their operations and their bottom line.  I can tell you first hand that the best doesn't always win.  I can give countless examples, but one would be the VHS vs Beta Max War.  If you're old enough you remember this.  Beta Max was miles better than the VHS.  Better tech, better quality, better product, etc.  So why did VHS win that war? The reason is that they not only had a quality product that worked (although not as good as Beta Max), but they also had a sound marketing strategy.  The best doesn't always win!!!  And, CasinoCoin won't "win" if they don't have some sort of marketing plan.  I'm sure with their connections they're promoting the heck out of this with the operators and payment processors, but we can't forget about the players.  They need to look forward to this as well.  Unless I'm missing something, the CSC Team is certainly big enough  to divert some efforts to marketing/creating awareness.  Their experienced enough, connected enough and have a solid board of advisors to get this done.

Regarding the professionalism;  again, I didn't see it yet, but if their dress and presentation was as unprofessional as some here have noted, it's unacceptable.  And, we should not make excuses for them or try to rationalize why this was OK.  It's not.  Period!  I would never take anyone seriously and in fact, would waste any of my time on anyone that didn't present themselves to me in a serious/professional way.  One person mentioned that maybe they did this on purpose to squelch the hype in this community.  I'm sorry to disagree.  No one with ANY business sense would do that and this was not done on purpose.  And, if it was....Wrong move.  Listen, I think it's great that we got this community going and I love it, but we're really not that big of a community and we certainly don't need to be squelched.  Hell, as it stands it sounds like we're the only marketing they've got.

I mentioned at the start of this that this has been on my mind for a while.  What I meant by that was I was at my limits with this "no hype" BS when they went on about it during the last chat they did in August.  We get it. You're "no hype".  No need to remind us at every turn.  And speaking of that last chat from August, it brings me to my second thing.  During that chat, John discussed that there were operators using CSC and that they all thought it was a great idea and he's received very positive feed back.  If you listen to that whole portion where this comes up, John stated that the overall sentiment of operators that were involved was that, "they thought it was a great idea, but the tech isn't nearly there".  The second part of that, "...but the tech isn't nearly there...." is what I want to point out.  Don't get me wrong, I have no problem if the tech isn't nearly there, I just want to point out to everyone that we probably have a long while before anything materializes with this.  However, I'm also struggling with it a little, because in the thread that was discussing the sandbox testing Daniel mentioned they were "ready to go" and "couldn't wait".  I understand that just because they're ready for the testing it doesn't mean that the tech doesn't still need some work, but I would think that if they're ready for the testing the tech would be closer than what the operators intimated to John.  I'm far from a tech guy; so I may be way off base with my understanding of it all; please don't kill me.

I hope none of this came across in any wrong kind of way.  Remember folks, I'm XRP & CSC through and through.  Also, I don't want any of you or the CSC Team to take anything I've written here as a slight on there intentions, passion or competence.  We said when we started this community that we weren't going to get out of hand with OUR hype and we also said that while we weren't going to allow any negativity by way of trolls, we weren't going to put our heads in the sand either.  I will be the first to show my appreciation to the CSC Team for a job well done, but I also have no problem calling anyone out if I have a problem with something.  If I'm wrong or I need to be educated they can do so and I'll be glad to stand corrected.  But this overkill on the no hype has to stop.  The bottom line is that it seems, at least to this community (and we do count), that CSC is lacking in the marketing and promotions department.  Please put one in place...Or, at least start creating some awareness.

Sorry for the rant and thanks in advance for tolerating it.

GO CSC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

alcar what are the foundation going to market and promote.how can a company promote and market an idea.they would be like the ico's of this world.they have said that marketing and promoting will be done once there is a live product.to promote and market.

once the operators are using csc in a live environment they will be keen to promote themselves aswell.every big company (operator)in a competitive market wants to shout look at what we have got this new tech etc.then other operators will be equally as keen to jump on board.

the experience of the foundation is huge.and im sure they know how to launch and run a business.a legal MGA approved product is a legit as you can get in this space.

does it matter because they didnt have suits and ties on i dont think it matters at all.

csc being used with operators solving real problems in the online gambling world matters.not clothing.

once again hype is just that hype.look at what we are going to do.we are doing this and that etc.hype.= nothing.

real world use is what the foundation is aiming for.solving real world issues.

taken from casinocoin.org

The CasinoCoin board of advisors represent unparalleled experience from across the global gaming industry. A team of c-level execs, with a wealth of experience from across the gaming sector, and who are held in very high regard amongst their industry peers.

This team will assist the Foundation in promoting the adoption and best-use practices of CasinoCoin in regulated gaming markets. Helping spread the mission to bring cryptocurrency to the regulated gambling industry. Their involvement and support highlights the growing excitement, support and confidence in CasinoCoin in the gaming world.

the above advisors are world leaders in the gaming world.

 

 

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I agree with @Alcar. Though, I haven't seen the video chat. 

In any case, this project has enormous potential, but delivery is key. You don't have to worry too much about hype. We're in a bear market. The crypto market meltdown of 2018 has quelled hype until there is a solid recovery.

Build the infrastructure. Build the tech. Build the connections with clients. Build connections with exchanges and you will have a top ten digital asset / crypto. CSC can be there with the best of them. Take advantage of the bear market to build. The herd will follow.

And not to compare, but XRP and team Ripple is a good example to follow. By three years time, I think that project will be passed destination moon. 

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1 hour ago, pyeball said:

alcar what are the foundation going to market and promote.how can a company promote and market an idea.they would be like the ico's of this world.they have said that marketing and promoting will be done once there is a live product.to promote and market.

once the operators are using csc in a live environment they will be keen to promote themselves aswell.every big company (operator)in a competitive market wants to shout look at what we have got this new tech etc.then other operators will be equally as keen to jump on board.

the experience of the foundation is huge.and im sure they know how to launch and run a business.a legal MGA approved product is a legit as you can get in this space.

does it matter because they didnt have suits and ties on i dont think it matters at all.

csc being used with operators solving real problems in the online gambling world matters.not clothing.

once again hype is just that hype.look at what we are going to do.we are doing this and that etc.hype.= nothing.

real world use is what the foundation is aiming for.solving real world issues.

taken from casinocoin.org

The CasinoCoin board of advisors represent unparalleled experience from across the global gaming industry. A team of c-level execs, with a wealth of experience from across the gaming sector, and who are held in very high regard amongst their industry peers.

This team will assist the Foundation in promoting the adoption and best-use practices of CasinoCoin in regulated gaming markets. Helping spread the mission to bring cryptocurrency to the regulated gambling industry. Their involvement and support highlights the growing excitement, support and confidence in CasinoCoin in the gaming world.

the above advisors are world leaders in the gaming world.

 

 

Thank you for your comments.   Maybe I didn't get my point across properly, but I'm not pounding the table; bitching that here isn't enough marketing and promotion.  I was trying to make two points.  First, I feel that CSC is overselling that their not going to "hype" their project.  We get that, we respect that, but it's not necessary go to such an extreme boasting anti-hype.  Second, a necessary part of a good business plan includes a sound marketing strategy.  Again, I'm not saying they should go crazy marketing a product that isn't completely ready to go live, but I am saying that there should be some level of marketing that is relative to where they are at with the project.  And, as the product matures, grows and develops, their marketing plan should grow, mature and develop along with it.

You asked, "what exactly are they going to promote" and "how can they promote and Idea".  You further state that doing so would make them like the ICO's of this world.  I completely disagree.  The ICO's that turned out to be "scams", were pegged scams for a few different reasons.  Many of these were a copy & pasted white paper, with an "idea" that they made sound good, but in reality would never work.  They preyed on the uneducated people who put their money into an idea that wasn't sound and had no chance of materializing.  What these ICO's did was make money on "hype", and nothing more.  And, THEY KNEW IT!  That's not the case here with CSC; no did I say it was.  I've been invested in CSC for a long time.  I've mentioned on these boards how I used to get excited when I saw a couple thousand dollars of volume.  AS BG says, it's about the use case.  And CSC has one.  A good one and an incredible team and board of advisors to go along with it.

I also disagree that there should be ZERO marketing efforts until there product is ready to go live.  As I've said, I'm not a tech guy, but I know enough about software development to know that if you're wanting for everything to be perfect and ready to launch before you sell it and launch it, it will never happen.  Anyone who does software development will tell you that it will never be perfect and at some point you just have to launch it and work out the bugs as you go.  Look at Ripple.  They never falsely hyped XRP, however while developing XRP, they also executed a plan to create awareness along side of the development that was relative to where they were at with the project.  But, they didn't go as so far to create false hope.  Years ago they said we we're years away from seeing XRP used live and at that their marketing plan was a soft touch approach to a level that only created awareness about what they were developing and the use case.  Now, they're talking about going live within the next month or so and their marketing strategy is much more aggressive (because it can be at this stage).

You asked in your post, "does it matter that they didn't have suits and ties on".  You say you don't think it matters at all and that's fine.  Firstly, I disclaimed in my post that I didn't see the chat yet and that my comments were based on the posts that I read in this thread.  Heck I may see it and think that they were fine with their dress and the way they presented themselves.  What I said was that IF their level of dress and presentation was as unprofessional as some here have noted, it's unacceptable.  And, I never said they needed to have suits and ties on.  However, I don't care who you are, what your experience is or what your connections are.  There is a certain level of decorum that is expected in the business world if you expect to be taken seriously.  I invest in stocks and each quarter they have an investors meeting via a conference call or a live stream kind of like the AMA's and stuff they do in the crypto world.  They always dress and present themselves professionally.  Now, in the crypto space, we're not called investors.  That would implicate the coin being a stock and we're investing in a company.  In the crypto space, we're strategically called a "community".  You and I both know we're investors.  And, as investors ( or a community) I think we're owed a certain level of professionalism as well as a certain amount of information.

Pyeball;  please don't take my response as "fighting back" at you.  I just wanted to clarify where I was coming from.  I also want you to know that I didn't take offence to your response to my post.  Remember, 90% of what we say isn't what we say; it's how we say it.  This is why so many times on forums such as these things get taken out of context and get ugly real quick.  It's also why I hate texting.  I sometimes answer my wife's texts back with an answer that I meant in a joking way and she snaps back at me.  Anyway, we're just having a conversation, which is good and what these forums are for.

Cheers to you my friend.  GO CSC!!!!!     

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2 hours ago, Alcar said:

Thank you for your comments.   Maybe I didn't get my point across properly, but I'm not pounding the table; bitching that here isn't enough marketing and promotion.  I was trying to make two points.  First, I feel that CSC is overselling that their not going to "hype" their project.  We get that, we respect that, but it's not necessary go to such an extreme boasting anti-hype.  Second, a necessary part of a good business plan includes a sound marketing strategy.  Again, I'm not saying they should go crazy marketing a product that isn't completely ready to go live, but I am saying that there should be some level of marketing that is relative to where they are at with the project.  And, as the product matures, grows and develops, their marketing plan should grow, mature and develop along with it.

You asked, "what exactly are they going to promote" and "how can they promote and Idea".  You further state that doing so would make them like the ICO's of this world.  I completely disagree.  The ICO's that turned out to be "scams", were pegged scams for a few different reasons.  Many of these were a copy & pasted white paper, with an "idea" that they made sound good, but in reality would never work.  They preyed on the uneducated people who put their money into an idea that wasn't sound and had no chance of materializing.  What these ICO's did was make money on "hype", and nothing more.  And, THEY KNEW IT!  That's not the case here with CSC; no did I say it was.  I've been invested in CSC for a long time.  I've mentioned on these boards how I used to get excited when I saw a couple thousand dollars of volume.  AS BG says, it's about the use case.  And CSC has one.  A good one and an incredible team and board of advisors to go along with it.

I also disagree that there should be ZERO marketing efforts until there product is ready to go live.  As I've said, I'm not a tech guy, but I know enough about software development to know that if you're wanting for everything to be perfect and ready to launch before you sell it and launch it, it will never happen.  Anyone who does software development will tell you that it will never be perfect and at some point you just have to launch it and work out the bugs as you go.  Look at Ripple.  They never falsely hyped XRP, however while developing XRP, they also executed a plan to create awareness along side of the development that was relative to where they were at with the project.  But, they didn't go as so far to create false hope.  Years ago they said we we're years away from seeing XRP used live and at that their marketing plan was a soft touch approach to a level that only created awareness about what they were developing and the use case.  Now, they're talking about going live within the next month or so and their marketing strategy is much more aggressive (because it can be at this stage).

You asked in your post, "does it matter that they didn't have suits and ties on".  You say you don't think it matters at all and that's fine.  Firstly, I disclaimed in my post that I didn't see the chat yet and that my comments were based on the posts that I read in this thread.  Heck I may see it and think that they were fine with their dress and the way they presented themselves.  What I said was that IF their level of dress and presentation was as unprofessional as some here have noted, it's unacceptable.  And, I never said they needed to have suits and ties on.  However, I don't care who you are, what your experience is or what your connections are.  There is a certain level of decorum that is expected in the business world if you expect to be taken seriously.  I invest in stocks and each quarter they have an investors meeting via a conference call or a live stream kind of like the AMA's and stuff they do in the crypto world.  They always dress and present themselves professionally.  Now, in the crypto space, we're not called investors.  That would implicate the coin being a stock and we're investing in a company.  In the crypto space, we're strategically called a "community".  You and I both know we're investors.  And, as investors ( or a community) I think we're owed a certain level of professionalism as well as a certain amount of information.

Pyeball;  please don't take my response as "fighting back" at you.  I just wanted to clarify where I was coming from.  I also want you to know that I didn't take offence to your response to my post.  Remember, 90% of what we say isn't what we say; it's how we say it.  This is why so many times on forums such as these things get taken out of context and get ugly real quick.  It's also why I hate texting.  I sometimes answer my wife's texts back with an answer that I meant in a joking way and she snaps back at me.  Anyway, we're just having a conversation, which is good and what these forums are for.

Cheers to you my friend.  GO CSC!!!!!     

at the end of the day it was just a fireside chat alcar. the foundation dont have to do them at all but they choose to do them for the community and most of us are grateful for that.

when john or the other members of the foundation attend meeting's no doubt they are dressed smart for that occasion.

the foundation have met up for a few days together to discus all things CSC so why cant they wear relaxing clothes jeans and t shirts/shirts etc.

i and many more people are 100% behind and believe in the foundation.they are the experts we aint at the end of the day.

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