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casinocoinpaperwallet.com vs Desktop Paper Wallet Generator

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Alright gang, I've been around crypto for a few years now, but I've always stored my holdings on trusted exchanges.   This is the first time that I've been involved with a project where $100 will get you hundreds of thousands of coins. A year from now, that could turn out to be quite the cash stash.  So in doing this, I'd like a more secure way of storing my CSC.  

Now, CasinoCoin has a link to a paper wallet generator (which is in the title) that you can generate and print off.  Is this just as secure as generating the wallet from the desktop GUI?

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I must admit I don’t know the difference between the desktop wallet which I’ve got and the paper version. No way am I leaving them on bitflip 😂

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Guest BlackJack

 

Rule 2 : Never Leave Your Crypto On an Exchange. Unless Trading. 

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The site has been done by a community member, i think @Toastedcoins

You can find its source here: https://github.com/toastedcoins/casinocoinpaperwallet.com this would allow you to check the code and run it on your own, or even alter it for your own needs. 

If you can't code the other option would be to trust the foundations' wallet and use that one. The code is public as well https://github.com/casinocoin/casinocoin-wallet/

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20 minutes ago, Daniel Keller said:

trust the foundations' wallet and use that one

Can the team please also publish the checksum for the binary downloads from the casinocoin.org site? And also put a warning not to download binaries from elsewhere.

This may become useful, if bad actors start creating alternate binaries to download from elsewhere,  after modifying the github code. I presume, going forward, that the proportion of users who will compile a binary from source will be minuscule.

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43 minutes ago, Daniel Keller said:

You can find its source here: https://github.com/toastedcoins/casinocoinpaperwallet.com this would allow you to check the code and run it on your own, or even alter it for your own needs. 

With absolutely no offence meant/disrespect to @Toastedcoins, this in no way guarantees that the code running on that site is the same as the source on github, without comparing the JavaScript on the site with the github code.

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1 hour ago, Lambotothemoon said:

I must admit I don’t know the difference between the desktop wallet which I’ve got and the paper version. No way am I leaving them on bitflip 😂

haha Agreed!  So far for CSC I'm storing them on my desktop wallet; but every tutorial I've read always concludes with creating a paper wallet and moving the coins from the desktop wallet to the newly generated paper wallet.  Unfortunately, I don't have a printer at home, and I'm certainly not going to try to write out the addresses and keys.  So I was just looking for the most secure way of storing such a large amount of coins.

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58 minutes ago, Daniel Keller said:

If you can't code the other option would be to trust the foundations' wallet and use that one. The code is public as well https://github.com/casinocoin/casinocoin-wallet/

Coding is definitely beyond my current skill set.  With that being said, I do currently store them in my desktop wallet.  It just seems like every tutorial ends with creating a cold paper wallet from the desktop wallet's tools menu.  I just want to make sure I'm storing them as safely/securing as I can, while also keeping my knowledge base in mind.

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Both are pretty safe ways to generate a paper wallet. The keys are created offline. It downloads the "tools" te generate keypairs and create a QR code for those. Just play with both options. Visit the site, disconnect from the network, create some keypairs and and reconnect your device. Send like 15 CSC or whatever 10+ amount you'd like test with and load the keys into your wallet. This is just to make sure you know it works and how it works 🙂

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14 minutes ago, Wenusch said:

Both are pretty safe ways to generate a paper wallet. The keys are created offline. It downloads the "tools" te generate keypairs and create a QR code for those. Just play with both options. Visit the site, disconnect from the network, create some keypairs and and reconnect your device. Send like 15 CSC or whatever 10+ amount you'd like test with and load the keys into your wallet. This is just to make sure you know it works and how it works 🙂

I think @RonSwanson has a problem that he can't print a paper wallet right now. I wouldn't recommend storing the output of the paper wallet into a file for printing later, neither does the desktop paper wallet generator. Also the recovery passphrase for a lost wallet password. 

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29 minutes ago, Wenusch said:

Both are pretty safe ways to generate a paper wallet. The keys are created offline. It downloads the "tools" te generate keypairs and create a QR code for those. Just play with both options. Visit the site, disconnect from the network, create some keypairs and and reconnect your device. Send like 15 CSC or whatever 10+ amount you'd like test with and load the keys into your wallet. This is just to make sure you know it works and how it works 🙂

So I would:
1. Go to https://casinocoinpaperwallet.com/
2. Log off the internet
3. 'Click' Generate New
4. Print
5. Close Website
6. Reconnect to the internet
???
(sorry to be so needy)

 

 

10 minutes ago, Fidgetspinner said:

I think @RonSwanson has a problem that he can't print a paper wallet right now. 

Correct.  From home, I don't have a printer.  I can print at work, but I can't download the desktop wallet to go through the Tools -> Generate Paper Wallet.  When I came across the website, it made me hopeful, but then I was worried about the security of it.  Maybe its worth ordering the cheapest printer Amazon has to offer lol.

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8 minutes ago, Fidgetspinner said:

I think @RonSwanson has a problem that he can't print a paper wallet right now. I wouldn't recommend storing the output of the paper wallet into a file for printing later, neither does the desktop paper wallet generator. Also the recovery passphrase for a lost wallet password. 

True. The thing I'm trying to say is, generate the keys offline and test first. You have to test a paper wallet before creating one where you store ALL your CSC. You don't want to end up losing CSC. 

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9 minutes ago, Wenusch said:

True. The thing I'm trying to say is, generate the keys offline and test first. You have to test a paper wallet before creating one where you store ALL your CSC. You don't want to end up losing CSC. 

Oh absolutely! Test and test again. Also from/to an exchange, including testing the destination (memo) tags.

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2 hours ago, Fidgetspinner said:

With absolutely no offence meant/disrespect to @Toastedcoins, this in no way guarantees that the code running on that site is the same as the source on github, without comparing the JavaScript on the site with the github code.

No offense taken. Thats why I posted the code on github if you wanted to do it yourself. 😉 

You can also do what @RonSwansonsuggested and disconnect from the internet completely as well. 

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If you are truly paranoid, here is an offline version, with instructions on how to compile your own.

https://github.com/cscchat/csc-paper-wallet

download the project on a live usb ubuntu distro, then go offline, and print out a few wallets, then turn off the computer before going back online.

That way there is no way for the information to ever be shared since any record dies when you turn off the power.

@Fidgetspinner if you want to give me some feedback, i would be down with that as well.

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Ok guys so total noob questions:

How do I check how much I have in my paper wallet?

and

When CSC moons, how do I transfer coins from the paper wallet onto an exchange for convesion to BTC, fiat etc?

 

cheers

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27 minutes ago, Lambotothemoon said:

Ok guys so total noob questions:

How do I check how much I have in my paper wallet?

and

When CSC moons, how do I transfer coins from the paper wallet onto an exchange for convesion to BTC, fiat etc?

 

cheers

Read towards the end of the link that DjemDiamond has shared.

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9 minutes ago, Fidgetspinner said:

Read towards the end of the link that DjemDiamond has shared.

I read the link end to end, unless I'm just dumb I can't see anything about how to see whats in your paper wallet and how to transfer the coins from your paper wallet to an exchange.

 

Have I missed something?

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1 minute ago, Lambotothemoon said:

I read the link end to end, unless I'm just dumb I can't see anything about how to see whats in your paper wallet and how to transfer the coins from your paper wallet to an exchange.

 

Have I missed something?

Nothing dumb at all about your questions!
1) To see the balance on your paper wallet you can go to https://explorer.casinocoin.org and type/paste your public key.

2) To send coins from your paper wallet to your exchange you need to first import the paper wallet into the Desktop Client. Then send the coins to your exchange. Make sure you use the destination (memo) tag along with the address that your exchange provides. It is best to do a test transaction first with a few coins. In general, I would advise importing your paper wallet only when you are ready to send coins to the exchange for selling.

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2 hours ago, Lambotothemoon said:

Ok guys so total noob questions:

How do I check how much I have in my paper wallet?

and

When CSC moons, how do I transfer coins from the paper wallet onto an exchange for convesion to BTC, fiat etc?

 

cheers

Use the explorer to check your account, import the secret to a wallet once you need to.

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18 hours ago, Daniel Keller said:

You could print it into a PDF 😉 that's what i did

I was considering this so I could print at a later time, but everyone seemed to tell me printing to PDF was a bad idea. 

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